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Michael Harari
The Hatchery
Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.01.07 08:18:00 -
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Tanya Powers wrote:Forsaken Skipper wrote:Lisa EF wrote:Remove: MWD Bonus
Add: 100% Bonus to "Small" Afterburner Speed Assault ships will be overpowered then. Current boost is nice enough (mistake in tracking bonuses is an exception). You failed to explain why 100% bonus to afterburner speed would make AF's overpowered. .
You are kidding, right? You wouldnt be able to track an assault frigate even with another frigate. |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery
Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.01.10 23:59:00 -
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Mars Theran wrote:I know from experience, as I got alpha'd at >3000 m/s in a Nano Jag, by an Apocalypse and Zealot once. They locked me up as I MWD'd off gate and practically one shotted me before I got 4s of burn in. The Apoc was using a Tachyon Beam Laser II. Killmail: http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=11562869Not sure what's with the Damage on that KM. I recall the majority of damage coming from an Amarr BS; but obviously that Jag has 10x the EHP, which is sorta wierd.
What happened here is an untanked frigate was webbed and painted by a million rapiers and killed. No surprise, and no mwd bonus would help. No reasonable bonus would help. |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery
Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.01.11 00:44:00 -
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placeholder Zateki wrote:Let me ask you something, why are you giving this role bonus to assault ships? You have said before because they cannot fly the distance between fleets without dying. By the same logic: cruisers, mining barges, badgers, destroyers, noob ships, etc. which cannot fly th distance between fleets must be given the means to do so  .
Sir, are you ********? "Badgers arent good in pvp, so they need to be buffed?" |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery
Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.01.11 01:42:00 -
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Prometheus Exenthal wrote:[
You can't take an Helios up against a Taranis and expect to win. So why shouldn't you expect the same from any other class.
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11933652
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11933864
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11933521
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=11924292
(there are more, as we both know, and I ignored all kills vs t1 frigates)
I dislike the idea that after afs, cruisers will be buffed. After that, cruisers will be shitting all over bcs, bcs will get buffed, and so on and we just have incredible power creep. |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery
Team Liquid
40
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Posted - 2012.01.11 01:59:00 -
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Axel Greye wrote:
EAF: Designed to Provide Advanced EWAR support for a fleet, but are generally not flown solo. A good frigate class for those pilots who love to provide advantage and support.
This is very much not true, EAFs are terrible. Its like flying a blackbird, but you get alphaed by a thrasher.
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Faction and Pirate Frigate : Frigates for the Richer Pilot, Serve multiple roles like assault frigs, but come with a heftier price tag. They are powerful, and dangerous, but should only be flown if you have the ISK to fund them. Basically you are trading ISK for Combat Performance.
Also not true. These af changes mean there is literally no reason to fly a hookbill over a hawk. Firetails are already not great, and after these changes, why would you ever fly one over a jaguar?
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Michael Harari
The Hatchery
Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.01.11 04:21:00 -
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You caught a kiting ship with a scram interceptor. You should win that fight. |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery
Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.01.11 05:04:00 -
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Axel Greye wrote:lol darkstar, prometheus has been solo roaming lowsec for years, he is one of the most well known pvpers in eve.
This is true, but equally, so are some of the other posters in this thread. Alex Medvedov iprobably has more experience with jaguars than any other person in eve. I have never seen sylvous outside of a frigate. Etc etc |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery
Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.01.11 05:58:00 -
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Prometheus Exenthal wrote:
I mean, my Brutix can beat the crap out of an Astarte, right?
No, but depending on fits a myrm could. |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery
Team Liquid
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Posted - 2012.01.11 06:11:00 -
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Quote:@MichaelI don't know what kinda Myrms you've been flyin  
Assuming both are active tanked, it really comes down to who has better drone/heat/cap management and more cap boosters (and who gets the cap penalty from exile) or at least I assume thats how it would play out (having never had this fight). If the astarte is buffer tanked, I dont see how it could win. |
Michael Harari
The Hatchery
Team Liquid
42
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Posted - 2012.01.12 13:52:00 -
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OT: I always thought a better comparison for the firetail was the dram. The dram pretty much = firetail + range bonuses + drone bay + snakes. Jaguar didnt get tracking bonuses, was way slower, had t2 resists, had very different fitting, etc.
Prom, any word on what changes, if any, from the OP in this thread are being released? |
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